The Unspeakable Horror of Chinese Bathrooms
Before we came to China, I thought we had bathroom chops enough to cope with anything the world had to offer. And then…
Well, then we came to China.
DON’T POO IN THIS TOILET
This is the sign that greeted me in my first Chinese toilet.
I’m not joking. And neither were they.
In fact, they had even placed a grill over the hole in their squat to prevent anyone attempting to, umm, pass solids. (Not that that stops folk in changing room showers, believe you me.)
Anywise, I went down the road to the public toilet. No grilles there. Also, no paper.
But plenty of used sanitary towels, scattered confetti style. Something of a theme in Chinese ladies rooms.
SO WHAT IF THERE’S AN ARMANI IN THIS MALL?
Now, Chinese bathrooms have improved a little over the last couple of thousand years — they’re not placed over pig pens, for starters.
But not much. In serene yet urban Kunming, we explored the toilets in various local malls.
All of them squats. All of them stinking.
Many of them with a flush so under-powered that any deposit that didn’t hit the hole just stayed there, waiting for you.
Even in a really expensive mall.
Where folk continued to do their business, trousers round their ankles, while chatting loudly with the door wide open. Why?
BECAUSE PLENTY OF BATHROOMS DON’T HAVE DOORS
This was what greeted me when heading for a pee in a small Chinese railway station.
The most obvious confounding factor was the absence of doors. Now, I can deal with that. I’m not shy.
On closer inspection, however, matters became considerably worse. What lies behind the non-doors is a long, communal trench, over which you hover to do your business.
How do you flush? Well, some have a flush in the cubicle at the top of the trench that sweeps all leavings down — UNDERNEATH anyone who’s unfortunate enough to be using one of the lower positions.
Others have a bucket that the attendant chucks down there occasionally.
Others, as one I used in Beijing, go for a REALLY long drop and let it all mound up.
AND, APPARENTLY IT GETS WORSE
I liked the passive-aggressive nature of this sign in a hostel bathroom.
But Chinese bathrooms get a hell of a lot worse than these.
There are the ones with no partitions at all. Just the communal trench.
The ones with a partition for every two squats, so that you and a friend can defecate together. (These are particularly unnerving in Beijing, where every sentence seems to end with a piratical “arrr”.)
The ones with what appears to be a flush mechanism that actually floods the floor through a tube on the other side of the room.
But the most mystifying thing of all?
Chinese cities are at least as clean as European cities. And you could eat your dinner off the bathroom floor in the average family home…
Go figure.
Where are the worst bathrooms you’ve ever seen?
*Note: Since first writing this post three years ago I have experienced many worse Chinese toilets than these. One that especially sticks in my mind was at a rural rest stop on a long bus ride in north-eastern China: not only were there no partitions between the squats, but the cesspit into which everything fell was entirely open to the air, complete with visible floaters. Though one does adapt: in one partition-less loo in a Beijing hutong, another foreigner entered while I was squatting to pee, and I blithely opened conversation, knickers round ankles, in authentic Chinese style.
Dear god – how on Earth are you coping?! lol. They all sound truly horrific…I would have had to leave the continent =D
Good for you haha
Umm, we’re going to Starbucks a lot. They can be relied on for clean Western bathrooms, should you hit the continent.
Damn- thanks for letting me relive memories from a few months ago in China that I had no urge whatsoever to relive. :p
The only thing your post is missing is mention of the little toddlers with slits in their pants so they can squat over and do their business on the side of the road. I guess it’s easier to just clean the streets in the morning than just tell kids not to do this?
Yes! I forgot how that charming rural custom had persisted in the new, modern, urban China — even in subzero temperatures, which always surprises me. We passed a guy urinating al fresco (around lunchtime) outside the Shanghai expo centre. Wasn’t drunk, just fancied a pee.
Side of the road? You mean the corner of WalMart! It’s a great way to save on diapers and learn how to potty train. Then they get held over the toilet and mama whistles to make them tinkle…
I didn’t know about the whistling! But, yes, very few places are safe from a Chinese child in learning mode, although they do all seem to wear diapers on the buses and trains.
You know, even after traveling in China over the last nearly 20 years… I still can’t handle Chinese toilets. There used to be a semi-organized word of mouth group that had a list of half bad toilets that you could visit. If you could only make it to the McDonalds at X place you were insured at least a non-trench… you know that old story. Living in Beijing how I longed for a “Western” potty even if they stood on the seats and toilet paper was all over the floor. It was always better than the trench.
I’ve got better at it, Kristy. As in, if I need to go in a Beijing hutong I will follow the sign to the nearest public lavatory and brave it. One would think it’s the sort of thing they’d have sorted out in time for the Olympics, but it clearly wasn’t a priority. What really gets me is that in some places they’ll have really flash-looking public potties. A load of money spent on glazed tiles and woodwork. And then STILL a filthy squat inside. (But no trench.)
I love it, I cannot wait to see one of these trenches you speak of! That will be a fabulous day:) We are in Thailand and have seen some aweful spots, especially when you get a filthy squatter and you have a 4 year old who needs to poo and no paper on top of that. At least they have the butt sprayers everyplace here!
Once you get used to the butt sprays, they’re rather like bidets, I find. In that you realise how hygienic they are. Bizarrely, toilet paper is a Chinese invention. Which means they don’t have butt sprays. Or even buckets and scoops.
Yuck! I though I’d seen some bad Vietnamese toilets but these sounds much worse. Scary:(
They make Vietnamese toilets look like the papal throne, Nikki. Infinitely worse than VN, and I do not say that lightly.
Oh yeah. I have a fabulous collection of photos taken in HK and Chinese toilets circa 1997. The tram stop at the bottom of the mountain in HK had a great sign with detailed pictograms depicting the correct usage of western style toilets.
Guangzhou zoo was The. Worst. Toilet. Ever.
But even the best toilet in HK, at the Peninsula hotel, wasn’t really my cup of tea due to the attendant hovering outside to help me wash my hands and to clean the toilet after I used it. I found it a little off-putting.
THEY HAVE WESTERN TOILETS IN HK? Hallelujah!
Not sure what my worst toilet in China is just yet. But on the public lavatory level, outside, in the snow, in subzero temperatures in Songpan was better than anything in any Chinese city. Outside Starbucks.
The worst toilet I ever experienced was at the border station between Turkey and Syria about 12 years ago. I didn’t notice that the urinals weren’t actually hooked up to anything, so I basically ended up peeing on my feet. 🙁
My worst before China was one in a Moroccan guesthouse we did not end up staying in. It was a filthy squat (no surprises there). BUT they’d put the shower directly over it, so you had to stand on the foot pedals of the squat to perform your other ablutions.
EEK! *gag*
YIKES. what do you do if you are disabled and can’t pop a squat?
those signs are truly priceless. and gross.
Disabled access in China is in its infancy. They do have ramps through the Forbidden City, eg, and I think there is one to the Temple of Heaven, but wheelchair friendly bathrooms are very few and far between. I think you would literally need to plot your day around accessible potties.
I really don’t like using a CR that is very dirty and smells like Yuck! I can’t speak with it. I rather not to go to the CR for a day if this kind of CR are available.
Starbucks is the answer. Or holding it in.
I’ve gotten awfully good at “holding it”, or dehydrating myself *just* enough so as I don’t have to “go” without causing discomfort. I hate bad bathrooms. Me and China might not get along.
On the bright side, “We want to give you this convenience” is quite hilarious. 🙂
The funny signs around China almost make up for the bathrooms, it’s true. But not quite.
Haha…the whole time we were in China I insisted on getting the private hostel rooms with a private bath. It was sooo worth it! I did start to appreciate the squat toilet after awhile though…a dirty hole in the floor is way better than a filthy Western toilet.
Oh god, I would never go for a shared bathroom in China. Never, never, never. I think the S-E Asian squat toilets are much nicer than China, because they have the bucket system…
Trench toilets with friends? I don’t know if I could do that. Whether with someone I know or not! I had no idea about the bathrooms in China!
Yes. I’m not sure I could do it either. Though I suppose, when in Rome…
Sweet baby Jesus, that’s both disgusting and hilarious! Personally, I’d rather crap in an outdoor latrine than in a restroom where me and my buddy have to sit shatting side by side.
That is horrifying. Another reason that I dont want to go to China (and im half chinese). I couldn’t even pee in a public bathroom until a few years back, so I DEFINITELY could not go with no doors!
Most of the mall ones do have doors. But, yes, it’s not for the shy. (NOr are the changing rooms at public swimming places….)
Rural Nepal had about what you’d expect: outhouses. So while these were probably bad in their own way, you weren’t sharing it with other people, which is a plus. However, I happen to be quite tall – roughly a foot over the average Sherpa – so there were interesting problems there. Scrunching into a little ball while going to the bathroom can be hard, especially when only given a small target.
Was this winter or summer? Apparently Mongolia has outhouses too…
Yep, the worst toilets in the world. I didn’t think that Indian toilets could be topped but they were in China. It makes me totally understand why you always see the guys peeing on the street.
YES!!! Even when they’re, like, 50 metres from a bathroom. And, of course, the kids with their butt-flap trousers too…
Worst bathroom. Tijuana. And China.
Worst bathroom in China? Pitch dark outhouse at night. Standing on two wooden slats over a giant pit. And then, in the dark, I heard movement and the bellow of a giant bull. I did my business quick!
Oooh! I didn’t realise they still did those Han dynasty style outhouses. One to look forward to. Or not, of course.
OK I’m feeling slightly less ill now about the bus station toilets in Serbia. Which apart from the communal trench sound very similar. Most don’t have working lights and we’ve discovered that’s a very good thing.
I suppose you also have to hold Hayley over them, which must be a REAL joy…
This is the funniest thing I have seen so far in 2012 😉
Thanking you, sir! Rather me than you, I guess…
Oh good Lord. I don’t think I could deal. So the trench sounds like what they use in dairy barns to clean up the cow crap. I can’t imagine crapping next to someone! And the toilets that don’t even LET you crap? WTF?
In the cities, you can always go to Starbucks. Small towns or long bus journeys? You will spend a lot of time holding it…
HAHAHA my life. Every day.
I am with NYU and we share a center with ECNU and all the toilets are squatters without toilet paper. I have classes in the same hallway as the bathroom and I hold my breath until I am safely inside. It’s horrifying. But my thighs are really strong now after all these months of supporting myself. 😉
YES! China is good for the thighs — you said it!
Also for the breath holding. Though, on the plus side, I guess you can always tell where the public loos are by following your nose…
Ugh, that sounds absolutely awful… I don’t think I’m looking forward to China any more – not that I was before, it’s more of a connecting point between Vietnam and the Trans-Siberian for me!
China is amazing, absolutely awe-inspiring and wonderful and fascinating, Tiffany. The bathrooms, however, suck badly. There are also lovely trains in China…
i can super relate to this… when we were in china, i often told my son to make sure he’s done enough pee at our hotel before we went out for a tour.
Yes! My son became quite proficient at, umm, holding it in…
I will never forget my first time in Mexico. I went with my father and I needed to use the little girls room. I went into the bathroom by myself, there was about a 2 foot gap between the stall wall and the back wall of the room.
Totally shocking to me!
We had a very special one in Indonesia. One where you just pee onto the floor and then sluice it away with water. I don’t know what you do if you need to pass solids. But China definitely the worst.
I had a similar experience when I was in China last summer, but the trick is, carry toilet paper with you (charmin makes travel friendly rolls) and try to snag the handicapped bathroom! those are almost alwayssssss western style.
I am, personally, a fan of wet wipes. Which, given we’re now in Egypt, I may well have to invest in again.
Your article gave me a good chuckle. After spending a month in China, I totally agree they are the worst! I took photos of a few of them, but some were so bad, I knew they should be never seen again, in a photo or otherwise. Thank goodness for Starbucks and their clean washrooms!
Oh yes! We do like a Starbucks bathroom!
Sadly, Chinese restaurant staff never wash their hands after using the paperless toilets. Which is why two week diarhea is so common for Eoropean visitors.
Really?! We had not so much as a single tummy upset over almost three months in China. Which could just mean that our immune systems are adapted to Asia, I guess…
Worse toilet experience was in Huangshan. Squat toilet filled to the brim with bright red blood and a turd floating on the top. Subsequent users had not wanted to shit in the hole for fear of AIDS-ridden splash back so had shat all around the footplates. 4 star hotel too. Oh, and yes, they still do the plank over the pig sty thing. Or they did in ’99. A german fellow student fell into one near Yangshuo. She actually left China because she was so traumatised by the experience. Did anyone try to sell you trinkets while on the trench? Has happened to Kate a couple of times. Doesn’t happen in the men’s loos. Homophobia perhaps.
No!!! Not in a four-star hotel, tell me no… That is beyond horrific.
Nobody has ever tried to sell me anything on the trench, thank god. I have that to look forward to, I guess.
I think my worst was in the Kunming luxury mall, just because it was unexpected — I was new to China and therefore figured that anywhere with Louis Vuitton and the like would have functional potties. And every single one of the ladies was a) a squat and b) full of horrible, horrible leavings.
Are you in Beijing over Xmas or heading back to civilisation? Would be great to catch up…
I have only one word for this… AAAAhhhh!
And, since this is an old post, I bring you this public service announcement.
Starbucks always have decent loos. There are LOTS of them in the main Chinese cities – http://www.starbucks.com/store-locator — and if you need to ask for one the Chinese name is pronounced (roughly) Shing-Barker.
Well, spending two months in Shang hai, and Shian. Nothing can prepare you for public restrooms. Carry tissues and just tell your self you will be home soon and really appreciate western bathroom culture. I’m lmao at all comments because they are all on the money. Squats are tolerable, the trenches with no doors with no privacy and collection of thousands of turds stench in the air make for a MasterCard priceless commercial. The kicker is due to the very nature of the restrooms THEY NEVER GET CLEANED. Just imagine . Welcome to china .
Yes! Mind you… You always think you’ve seen the world’s worst bathroom and then another comes along to surprise you. There’s one on the way up Mount Sinai in Egypt, where they’ve installed a Western throne but without any plumbing (because it’s up a mountain), in a kind of bamboo and palm lean-to. That was quite distressing, actually. Even in the dark. Especially in the dark…
The public toilets located at Chinese borders are beyond description. They would require a high pressure, sustained blast from a fire engine to remove the build up. The absolute worst though was where a public toilet could not be used (even by the Chinese) as it was simply impossible to find a space to place your feet, so instead a nearby abandoned building was used. I can’t begin to describe what that experience was like…..
Oooh, OK, that’s just beaten John’s 4* Chinese hotel description… Oh dearie me.
After 14 months of living in Shanghai, I’m still not over the horrific smell. I can block out most everything else by now, but the smell emanating from the bins where all the dirty paper and sanitary pads are thrown – I still have to hold my breath. I haven’t come across any trenches yet, thank heavens. The Western hotels are usually my go-to choice – most have decent facilities in the lobby.
That is a VERY good tip, thank you. I remember the loos in Shanghai being infinitely better than those anywhere else we visited. Even the ones in post-Olympic Beijing.
really i would wonder do men and ladies share a bathroom!!!!!!!!!!
No, they don’t. Mercifully.
i like that
no awnswers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh wow, this relived some memories for me. I travelled in China nearly 20 years ago and I’m amazed it hasn’t got any better. The 2 worst for me were a border crossing with Vietnam where it was just a concrete slab behind a wall about 1.5m high with no pumbing what-so-ever. Everybody just did their stuff on a spare part of the floor and left it (welcome to China! My first minutes in the country!!) and a trench in a hostel in Beijing. No doors like you said, but I hadn’t hoisted in just how foul it was until someone “upstream” from me was clearly having her period and blood came flowing down while I was doing my stuff! God, the memories! I’ll never forget and your post has brought them all rushing back. Should I say thanks??!!
I think it *has* got better, probably. I’ve never come across a trench in a hostel/hotel: even the dirt cheap place we landed up staying on our second night in Harbin had a squat and kept it clean. But it still can be really quite dismal. Definitely the single worst country for bathroom surprises I’ve ever visited, not least because the surroundings are often so posh.
omg, reading the comments here I couldn’t decide whether to laugh or cry lol The 2nd pic posted takes my first prize lol I also experienced squat toilets in Venice (well, they were so close to the ground users had to squat). Good idea when entering a squat toilet is to leave handbags, coats etc with someone so your hands are free 😉
Just disgusting – no words can describe how absolutely foul these people can be in this area of hygiene – an NO I am not racist.I’m a Caucasian Australian, and I live with 4 young Chinese people, and 1 Indian guy – and the Indian is by far the winner in the toilet hygiene & etiquette! I am 50 y/o and have lived with many races, in all types of social-strata, and yet in particular, Chinese urine/feces gets me every time. I have never smelled anything quite like it, and will often go to the mall to do my thing so that I don’t have to smell it. It really is the worst thing I have ever had to smell period. I can take the smell of dead bodies over it – it is THAT bad. I would never go to China – not in a million years, if it can be this bad in another country! Sheesh..
“Chinese cities are at least as clean as European cities. And you could eat your dinner off the bathroom floor in the average family home…”
IS THIS A JOKE? I have been to many many countries, of which many poorer than China, but nowhere are the households as dirty and truly disgusting as in China. Walk into any house in even a 2 or year old building in the city center of the largest cities and you will be shocked. I live in China for over 5 years so I have some experience.. It still amazes me how unhygienic Chinese are. Take a ride on the metro and you will notice it;s not only their homes….
Ummm…. no, it’s not a joke. It’s based on an unscientific sample of Chinese city apartments that we’ve visited. What I tend to notice on metro rides, to be honest, is how neat and well-groomed people are at any time of day: if you’re talking about rural poor, then the situation is, obviously, different.
One of my worst experiences was in an office building in a city in China, cant recall which city, perhaps Chongqing, everyone well dressed. But the squat toilets, clearly they weren’t interested in getting it in the hole. I was just able to hold my breath long enough – only just. No way could I have had a squat as you would be standing in it. Now working in an office building in Sydney which is heavily Chinese and unfortunately its getting that way here. No squat toilets but that doesn’t stop them bringing their bathroom habits here. The building manager has put instructions up on the wall on how to use the toilets, no standing on it, flush the used toilet paper and don’t throw it on the floor etc. It gets real wet and messy in their as the day goes on. Never imagined I would see it in Australia!
The public bathroom is absolutely an disaster, it often feels like somewhat ‘forgotten’ by the government. so I always use the one home and in the diner(where at least someone care to clean). I don’t think the gov pays any attention to be public bathroom they built on roads yet at the high-speed railway station & the airport, somewhat it’s all good.
Yeah, I am on my way to a year in China now. Sounds like I am in for an adventure. Someone else mentioned India. I have been to India and only encounterned western toilets the entire time. But there were some totally nasty public restrooms at parks…the kind where you open the door and you immediately close it and go “No…just no.” lol
I’m so grateful to find this post! We are hosting a 12yo boy from China for 2 weeks, and he keeps using the bathroom with the door open. I asked my husband to explain protocol, but so far, no dice. Luckily our family is pretty casual between my husband, son, and me about this sort of thing, but it’s odd with a near total stranger. I feel like I should educate him on US toilet standards, but it’s not clear how to do that without giving offense or causing embarrassment. So I hide when he uses the toilet. At least now I have some context for understanding his toilet habits!
India has the Hole-in-the-Floor at Urban rest stops, but, then so does Italy. I had Dysentery, and the tour guide had to clean everything with a bucket of water after I went. Embarrassing and Disgusting.
Seems like only in America the squat and poop is unheard of. I was born in The Ukraine and I was pretty much raised with this cocept in mind. Eventually I moved to the U.S and decided forget the old ways and sit down and smoke a cigarette. I think the reason china has such terrible restrooms is because of the population. The major cities are so over flowed that upgrades have not caught up. They found they most efficient way to make it work (surprise that’s what the Chinese are famous for) basically cheapest way to have public shiters exist. Who cares if I get turds in my sandels at least I’m helping my country. Wake up America…. sacrifice sometimes